Dexter
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Inwiefern seht ihr nichts abschließendes? Die Figuren befinden sich doch alle in der Endphase (Dexter und Debra minimum seit Beginn der 7. Staffel oder noch früher, Mazuka und Quinn jetzt ebenfalls auf dem Weg zum Abschluss), teilweise schon seit mehr als einer Staffel. Im Endeffekt hat man zudem noch 150 Minuten für den Abschluss, dass ist ein Hollywood Blockbuster inklusive Überlänge.
Mir gefällt es außerdem sehr gut, dass man noch keine Richtung vorgibt, dann muss man am Ende auch nicht irgendeinen fiesen break/turn hinschreiben, um Spannung aufkommen zu lassen. Alsbald wird es aber knallen, soviel steht fest, wohin es führen soll hab ich allerdings auch keine Ahnung, will ich aber auch gar nicht.
Macht euch keine Sorgen, Dexter entwickelt imho schon immer recht langsam und legt dann rasant los, ohne dass man vorher auch nur ansatzweise mit dem ein oder anderen Staffelfinale rechnete.
Mir gefällt es außerdem sehr gut, dass man noch keine Richtung vorgibt, dann muss man am Ende auch nicht irgendeinen fiesen break/turn hinschreiben, um Spannung aufkommen zu lassen. Alsbald wird es aber knallen, soviel steht fest, wohin es führen soll hab ich allerdings auch keine Ahnung, will ich aber auch gar nicht.
Macht euch keine Sorgen, Dexter entwickelt imho schon immer recht langsam und legt dann rasant los, ohne dass man vorher auch nur ansatzweise mit dem ein oder anderen Staffelfinale rechnete.
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Danke. Ich wollte hier gestern schon meinen Rant loslassen. Das kann echt nicht wahr sein, dass es nur noch zwei Folgen sind und nach einer doch recht ansehnlichen 7. Staffel, die wieder das Ruder rumgerissen und einen guten Weg für das Serienfinale geebnet hat, so ein fader und zusammenhangloser Stuss dabei rauskommt.
Das einzige Gute an dieser desaströsen Staffel sind die Reviews vom AVClub. Herrlich.
http://www.avclub.com/articles/monkey-in-a-box,102432/
http://www.avclub.com/articles/monkey-in-a-box,102432/
seb
Parkrocker
Meine Fresse ist das mies. Ich gugg's trotzdem zu Ende; mittlerweile aber nur aus reiner Belustigung und Schadenfreude. Zum Glück ist es ab nächster Woche vorbei. Schade, was aus Dexter geworden ist..
icedearth
The American Dream
Leider hab ich gar nicht die Zeit, den ganzen Backlash im Internet nachzulesen. Den Post aus einem US-Forum fand ich aber schon mal sehr unterhaltsam:
Damn.
EDIT: Und das!
- Dexter kills an innocent person. That never comes back to haunt him, ever.
- Dexter kills an innocent person again. That doesn't come back to haunt him either.
- Dexter kills at least one more innocent person. He's killed people that don't fit the code several times now. Nothing happens.
- Quinn suspects that Dexter is suspicious and is up to something, so he has Robocop tail Dexter. Dexter kills Robocop but the muder is somehow placed on Quinn. After Dexter covers for Quinn and gets the murder investigation dropped, Quinn decides to call a truce. In the finale, Quinn sees Dexter suspiciously kill a man on camera and they make eye contact. Quinn knows something is up. Nothing happens.
- That one intern guy (I can't even remember his name anymore) is harassing Dexter. It's clear that he knows more than he lets on. Dexter M99s him and leaves him on a park bench. He retaliates by mailing Dexter the ITK hand. Dexter gets the hand in the mail and is freaked out. If I rememeber correctly, Deb also sees the hand and is freaked out. Nothing happens.
- Hannah kills Sal Price, who Deb was in a relationship with. Hannah poisons Deb in an attempt to kill her. Deb forgives Hannah for killing Sal (or she forgot because everyone else did). Dexter realizes Hannah killed an innocent man (which goes against his code) but looks the other way. Deb forgives Hannah for nearly killing her. Dexter forgives Hannah for nearly killing Deb. Nothing happens.
- Masuka's long lost daughter shows up out of nowhere. It turns out that she smokes pot, and comes to work high too! Nothing happens.
- Harrison revels that he's pulled a stuffed animal of his that Dexter threw away out of the garbage. Said stuffed animal is covered in the blood of one of Dexter's victims, which is evidence that will undoubtedly incriminate Dexter. Dexter allows Harrison to keep the stuffed animal, blood and all, because why not. Nothing happens.
- Laguerta is on Dexter's tail but gets killed by Deb. Batista has all of the evidence that Laguerta has compiled against Dexter in his house. He never once looks at it. Nothing happens.
- Batista buys a restaurant. Nothing happens.
- Dexter kills a man, in public, in broad daylight, while surrounded by other people, at a shooting range. He claims that nobody will find out because it was in a different police district, and simply leaves the body. Nothing happens.
- Edwards is clearly suspicious and his handling of the Zack case heavily implies that he knows that Zack is a murderer. Nothing happens.
- Angelina Miller, a relatively minor character, is promoted to sergeant over Quinn. She then disappears. Nobody notices. Nothing happens.
- Harrison falls off Deb's treadmill and has his chin get sliced open. He then repeatedly says OW OW OW OW OW OW OW for way too long. After coming back from the hospital, it's revealed that he has several stitches in his chin from the large gash that was visibly bleeding everywhere. Harrison has Wolverine's healing powers and the stitches disappear after an hour. As far as his relatively large injury went, nothing happens.
- Jaimie breaks up with Quinn. You would think she'd end up going to Atlanta because the only thing keeping her in Miami was her relationship with him. Nothing happens.
- Saxon, the most wanted man in the country, pistol whips a man in broad daylight in a public place while surrounded by people. Nothing happens.
- Saxon walks into a hospital while surrounded by people after he cuts a man's tongue out. Nobody recognizes him. Nothing happens.
- Dexter and Saxon are about to have a confrontation in a hallway. Saxon gets caught by the cops. Nobody notices Dexter. Nothing happens.
- Hannah M99s Elway in plain sight and then loudly explains what she just did. Nothing happens.
- Dexter kills Saxon on camera. Both Batista and Quinn watch the footage and Dexter is clearly suspicious. Batista is dumbfounded as to how and why Dexter is even there. They let him go. Nothing happens.
- Dexter takes Deb off life support. Alarms go off. Nothing happens.
- Dexter, clearly not hospital staff, walks Deb out of the hospital on a stretcher. Nothing happens.
- Dexter, still clearly not hospital staff, loads Deb onto his boat and sails off while surrounded by people. Nothing happens.
- Dexter dumps his kid on his girlfriend (who is a serial killer and has already tried to kill one of Dexter's family members) and fakes his own death. Nothing happens.
EDIT: Und das!
Might be the worst episode of television I've ever seen. Oh holy shit, that was so fucking bad. I laughed heartily throughout it. America's #1 comedy right here.
I just don't have the detailed breakdown in me. I mean, so much stupid shit happened. Dexter sends his son away with a wanted fugitive who has murdered people in the past, because "it's safer." Hannah injects Elway with tranquilizers on a bus in front of people, and then loudly tells him her plan so anyone can hear. Oliver Saxon does... anything. He walks around covered in blood. He knocks a guy out in a parking lot with dozens of people around. He creates a diversion in the hospital, and then walks in front of people, and no one sees him somehow. He and Dexter are the only 2 people in an entire hospital wing, except for super-cop Angel Batista, who shows up miraculously at the right time to save the day. Since when does Angel do anything right?
Why does Hannah McKay not disguise herself? She's already been spotted once, she didn't learn from that? Oliver Saxon doesn't disguise himself either. Do wanted murderers just think they can walk freely among us as their mug shots are broadcast to the world? 5 seconds of thought could have fixed these problems.
So, the ending. Hoo boy, that ending. Wow. Deb has complications from being shot. That's fine, I can accet that. And then Quinn cries, which was hilarious, if nothing else. Then, Dexter, who DOES NOT WORK at Miami Metro anymore, gains access to the holding facilities by going through a desk cop who clearly doesn't give a shit about shit. Then, in front of security cameras, he goads Saxon to stab him with a pen, which he then expertly plunges into Saxon's jugular. Then he calmly composes himself, presses the panic button, and pretends to be freaked out. Angel and Quinn watch this tape... and completely buy what Dexter is selling. Or at least are OK with a brutal murder taking place in Miami Metro facilities because Saxon shot Deb. Makes sense to me. Here's how the conversation went down - and this is an exact transcript:
ANGEL: "You don't even work here anymore, how are we going to explain this?"DEXTER: Bullshit excuseANGEL: "OK, but why did you do this personally?"DEXTER: Bullshit excuseANGEL: "Works for me!"
Then Dexter boats over to the hospital, parking his boat in the hospital's visitor parking marina that is conveniently located, runs up the gangplank to the front door, and kills Deb. Not for Deb, mind you, but because he couldn't bare her being like that. But don't worry, he told Deb he loved her before she died, because she could not leave this earth until she heard those comforting words. Because this is a show for 15-year old girls and housewives.
Then, because he's a good brother, he wheels Deb out of the hospital in front of hospital personnel, DRESSED LIKE A FUCKING MURDERER, and takes her on to his conveniently parked boat. But, thankfully, there's a big storm, so in all of the evacuation brouhaha, no one notices all this shit Dexter is doing. Then, because he's the only person in the whole world that matters, he cheats all of Deb's friends and co-workers out of their chances to say good-bye by dumping her into the ocean. Because, you see, she's as much a victim of Dexter's as Saxon or anyone else he killed. And if you didn't get that, don't worry, the voiceover put a nice little bow on it. Also, no one wondered what happened to a high-profile coma patient whose story was on the news? No one looked into that at all? Makes sense. So he crashes his boat, and because he's the best swimmer in the world (remember his season 6 feats of Herculean swimming out of fire?), he is able to survive a Hurricane on the water and make it to the safety of... some place.
Then we get to our big ending, where Dexter is a lumberjack, but he's most decidedly NOT OK. Why did Dexter become a lumberjack? Why did he fake his own death and leave his son with a wanted murderer in a foreign country, never letting him know he died? I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA. Your guess is as good as mine. But at least Harrison and Hannah are in a Parisian cafe in Argentina, where there are no brown people, but at least there's some white people. What became of him? Is he still killing? Did he give it up? It was left completely open-ended.
So that tells us what the spin-off will be - Dexter: Tales of a Logging Man. I say we meet here every week to discuss that one, as well. Who's in?
I just don't have the detailed breakdown in me. I mean, so much stupid shit happened. Dexter sends his son away with a wanted fugitive who has murdered people in the past, because "it's safer." Hannah injects Elway with tranquilizers on a bus in front of people, and then loudly tells him her plan so anyone can hear. Oliver Saxon does... anything. He walks around covered in blood. He knocks a guy out in a parking lot with dozens of people around. He creates a diversion in the hospital, and then walks in front of people, and no one sees him somehow. He and Dexter are the only 2 people in an entire hospital wing, except for super-cop Angel Batista, who shows up miraculously at the right time to save the day. Since when does Angel do anything right?
Why does Hannah McKay not disguise herself? She's already been spotted once, she didn't learn from that? Oliver Saxon doesn't disguise himself either. Do wanted murderers just think they can walk freely among us as their mug shots are broadcast to the world? 5 seconds of thought could have fixed these problems.
So, the ending. Hoo boy, that ending. Wow. Deb has complications from being shot. That's fine, I can accet that. And then Quinn cries, which was hilarious, if nothing else. Then, Dexter, who DOES NOT WORK at Miami Metro anymore, gains access to the holding facilities by going through a desk cop who clearly doesn't give a shit about shit. Then, in front of security cameras, he goads Saxon to stab him with a pen, which he then expertly plunges into Saxon's jugular. Then he calmly composes himself, presses the panic button, and pretends to be freaked out. Angel and Quinn watch this tape... and completely buy what Dexter is selling. Or at least are OK with a brutal murder taking place in Miami Metro facilities because Saxon shot Deb. Makes sense to me. Here's how the conversation went down - and this is an exact transcript:
ANGEL: "You don't even work here anymore, how are we going to explain this?"DEXTER: Bullshit excuseANGEL: "OK, but why did you do this personally?"DEXTER: Bullshit excuseANGEL: "Works for me!"
Then Dexter boats over to the hospital, parking his boat in the hospital's visitor parking marina that is conveniently located, runs up the gangplank to the front door, and kills Deb. Not for Deb, mind you, but because he couldn't bare her being like that. But don't worry, he told Deb he loved her before she died, because she could not leave this earth until she heard those comforting words. Because this is a show for 15-year old girls and housewives.
Then, because he's a good brother, he wheels Deb out of the hospital in front of hospital personnel, DRESSED LIKE A FUCKING MURDERER, and takes her on to his conveniently parked boat. But, thankfully, there's a big storm, so in all of the evacuation brouhaha, no one notices all this shit Dexter is doing. Then, because he's the only person in the whole world that matters, he cheats all of Deb's friends and co-workers out of their chances to say good-bye by dumping her into the ocean. Because, you see, she's as much a victim of Dexter's as Saxon or anyone else he killed. And if you didn't get that, don't worry, the voiceover put a nice little bow on it. Also, no one wondered what happened to a high-profile coma patient whose story was on the news? No one looked into that at all? Makes sense. So he crashes his boat, and because he's the best swimmer in the world (remember his season 6 feats of Herculean swimming out of fire?), he is able to survive a Hurricane on the water and make it to the safety of... some place.
Then we get to our big ending, where Dexter is a lumberjack, but he's most decidedly NOT OK. Why did Dexter become a lumberjack? Why did he fake his own death and leave his son with a wanted murderer in a foreign country, never letting him know he died? I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA. Your guess is as good as mine. But at least Harrison and Hannah are in a Parisian cafe in Argentina, where there are no brown people, but at least there's some white people. What became of him? Is he still killing? Did he give it up? It was left completely open-ended.
So that tells us what the spin-off will be - Dexter: Tales of a Logging Man. I say we meet here every week to discuss that one, as well. Who's in?
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Ich bin stinksauer, dass man diese großartige Serie so vergewaltigt hat. Hätte man doch nur mit Staffel7 aufgehört, das Setup war so großartig.
Das jetzige Finale ist nicht nur schlecht, es macht auch einfach überhaupt keinen verfluchten Sinn (Warum und wieso und überhaupt wird Dexter Waldarbeiter WTF) und dann diese unfassbar schlechte Szene mit dem Tod von Deb, als Dexter sie aus dem Krankenhaus schiebt und dann auf sein Boot trägt. Wahnsinn...
Das jetzige Finale ist nicht nur schlecht, es macht auch einfach überhaupt keinen verfluchten Sinn (Warum und wieso und überhaupt wird Dexter Waldarbeiter WTF) und dann diese unfassbar schlechte Szene mit dem Tod von Deb, als Dexter sie aus dem Krankenhaus schiebt und dann auf sein Boot trägt. Wahnsinn...
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Nach Staffel 4 gings einfach nur noch bergab
Ich bleib dabei, Staffel7 war absolut klasse und bot tolle Chancen für das Ende der Serie.
Ich hab mir jetzt auch endlich mal die erste Staffel angeschaut und empfand die als sehr gut geschrieben. Ich hab's geschafft, in dem Thread noch keinen Post zu lesen und dementsprechend auch Spoilern jedweder Art zu entgehen. Allerdings hab ich von mehreren Leuten gehört, dass die Serie irgendwann stark abbaut. Bis zu welcher Staffel kann ich denn problemlos schauen, ohne enttäuscht zu werden?